据说是梅朗和阿加西的机芯，麻烦大神们进来看看，谢谢！

最近在网上看到两个怀表机芯，一个据说是梅朗的，一个据说是阿加西的。我水平有限，只是觉得，1.蜗牛微调很高级，2.两块机芯的版路和结构几乎一模一样，3.两块机芯我都看不到有标梅朗或者阿加西。
我想请大神们点评一下，1.两个机芯真的是梅朗和阿加西的吗？2.还是两个机芯是同一个牌子的？
银色壳是梅朗，四张图，金色壳是阿加西，两张图

以个人愚见，两个都是阿加西的。

摇人儿 发表于 2019-5-21 15:05
以个人愚见，两个都是阿加西的。

感谢大神！今晚可能睡得着了！

两个都是阿加西，毫无疑问

tomczc 发表于 2019-5-21 19:44
两个都是阿加西，毫无疑问

感谢大神！你这句话！我乐开了花！
翻到你的旧贴，真是宝贵资料，我看到的和你的比不了，新手也能看出，打磨差一些，套筒也差一些，不过好歹也是阿加西。
百度贴吧上，有人说是现代机芯，有人说是前苏联的

History of Agassiz Watch Company:
The Agassiz Watch Company was established in 1876 by Georges Agassis, however it was Georges father, Auguste who first established a watch dealership that was the catalyst for the company to be set up.
The Agassiz Family is a family of Swiss origin, hailing from the small village of Agiez near Lake Neuchatel. The family has included a number of high profile members, such as the scientists Louis and Alexander Agassiz, as well as the founder of the Longines watch firm, Auguste Agassiz
Agassiz’s history is closely related to that of Longines. In 1832 Auguste Agassiz arrived in Saint-Imier Switzerland and entered the "Comptoir horloger Raiguel Jeune". The following year, in association with Florian Morel and Henri Raigue, he founded the "Comptoir Raiguel Jeune & Cie". When in 1838 Henri Raiguel retired, Auguste Agassiz and Florian Morel became the owners of the company, now renamed "Comptoir Agassiz & Cie", until in 1847 Agassiz became the sole owner. A few years later, in 1852, his nephew, Ernest Francillon, joined the company, succeeding his uncle in 1862. Thus, the new company "Ancienne Maison Auguste Agassiz, Ernest Francillon, Successeur" was born.
At that time, all the various components that comprised a watch were was produced by different craftsman throughout the region. Francillon recognized that this traditional production method resulted in quality control difficulties. He therefore decided to produce all the necessary components under one roof, and built a new factory at Les Longines in 1866.
This marked the beginning of Longines.
Auguste's son, Georges Agassiz, participated in the project to create the new factory. A year later he went to the United States to market Longines timepieces there. Upon his return, he assumed the role of financial and marketing manager at Longines, about ten years prior to him setting up alone and operating as the "Agassiz Watch Company". Do not be surprised if you happen to come across a watch with "Agassiz-Longines" on the face, as these were produced at times throughout the company's lifespan.
Then, in 1876, he founded the Agassiz Watch Co. to trade watches independently. To all appearances, however, links with the Longines company were never entirely severed. In fact, many watches had a double signature. His corporate mission was to finish and assemble movements of high value and quality as well as complete watches. In 1889 Agassiz was awarded a gold medal for its remarkably fine movements at the Paris World exhibition. In 1896, the rights to Agassiz fish logo passed to Auguste Sandoz of Saint-lmier. The award of the prestigious Gold Medal for its contribution to the world of horology confirmed Agassiz as a major world player in quality watch manufacture.
Always a man of high standards, Georges set up his company with a vision to create timepieces that would be world famous for their quality of manufacture and precision. Right from the start it was decided that they would make whole watches and not use cheap imported watch cases for any of their movements.
After twenty years behind the helm, he handed over the running of the business to Auguste Sandoz. This change led to a wider range of Agassiz watches being developed, with the use of precious stones and high quality jewelry work being done on cases and dials. Complicated movements were also developed and housed in ultra-thin cases, a major development for the time that made their watches more attractive, wearable and importantly kept the company visible to a worldwide watch buying public.
In the early to mid 1900s, the Company established a reputation as a supplier of high-grade repeater pocket watch movements, chronometers and great looking, almost military style watches. They also branched out into making clocks, with some fine 8-Day movements.
For the collector, Agassiz watches are very affordable, even though they appear to be quite rare when compared with some other watch brands.

For the collector, Agassiz watches are very affordable, even though they appear to be quite rare when compared with some other watch brands. If you are short on funds, this should be one manufacturer that you take a look at. Fine quality and good looks would make this a great addition to any fine watch collection.
It's a shame that so many of the Great watchmakers such as Agassiz, Ed. Koehn, Meylan and Niton are barely spoken of today. There are others watch equally as fine and perhaps even finer but they sadly are long since lost to history.

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小严 发表于 2019-5-22 00:33
History of Agassiz Watch Company:
The Agassiz Watch Company was established in 1876 by Georges Agass ...

玩怀表，这里是全国最专业的地方，水准和美国NAWCC差不多，多看论坛帖子，和几个版主交流，进步很快的，什么贴吧、别的论坛，可以直接忽略。高手都在这里

tomczc 发表于 2019-5-22 07:24
玩怀表，这里是全国最专业的地方，水准和美国NAWCC差不多，多看论坛帖子，和几个版主交流，进步很快的， ...

谢谢大神指点！
本论坛确实水平高，高人多！但我平时不敢多逛，逛一次，就心痒一次，经济能力有限，来多了，要吃土

阿加西和梅朗都有类似的夹板样式，不过从微调和止逆的样式来看，阿加西的可能性较大。

xhandy 发表于 2019-5-22 18:03
阿加西和梅朗都有类似的夹板样式，不过从微调和止逆的样式来看，阿加西的可能性较大。

多谢版主指点！看多了美式的打磨和微调，看到这个机芯，感觉耳目一新

tomczc 发表于 2019-5-22 07:24
玩怀表，这里是全国最专业的地方，水准和美国NAWCC差不多，多看论坛帖子，和几个版主交流，进步很快的， ...

尺有所短 ＂寸有所长，应该采他山之玉，纳百家之长，孔子曰：三人行，则必有我师。是故＂弟子不必不如师，师不必贤于弟子，闻道有先后，术业有专攻，如是而已。否则，就成了伟光正了……

蒙古大夫 发表于 2019-5-23 09:12
尺有所短 ＂寸有所长，应该采他山之玉，纳百家之长，孔子曰：三人行，则必有我师。是故＂弟子不必不如师 ...

也有道理，毕竟每个群体的定位还有喜好都不同，大家可以博采众长，各取所需。

小严 发表于 2019-5-26 23:29
也有道理，毕竟每个群体的定位还有喜好都不同，大家可以博采众长，各取所需。

不过楼上的说的确实也是，贴吧新手比较多，但是也有高手，据我所知，吧主算一个，古怀玩算一个，都是很有水准的，只不过没有这里的高手多，但是贴吧不能光看怀表吧，还有古董表吧，修表吧，手表吧，等等等等，加起来也有很多高手的，只不过比较分散，下次再发现你一稿多投要罚款……

蒙古大夫 发表于 2019-5-27 20:04
不过楼上的说的确实也是，贴吧新手比较多，但是也有高手，据我所知，吧主算一个，古怀玩算一个，都是很有 ...

呵呵，其实我是遵循兄台的思路，三人行必有我师，多问几个人，多听听专家的意见，没有坏处啊。专门翻了版规，没有不准别处问人
不过我这个贴，也有违规之处，不该在拍卖还没有结束时就发帖问，以后要注意，有点耐心，等拍卖结束了再发帖

向大家承认错误，没仔细看版规，我发帖时，银色壳的拍卖结束了，但金色壳的还没有，以后一定注意。
发个结果大家看，作为本帖的结束，市场价格应该还是认同大神们的意见。
金色的贵好多，除了打磨好一点，会不会跟我发此贴有关系？