jimwu 发表于 2012-12-4 01:06
今后我一定要多学习，多请教呀，不能自己想当然。

这方面我也是新手，要深入学习还得到NAWCC那里去。

共勉之！

跟朗格很像，呵呵

nomorewatch 发表于 2012-12-4 00:16
兄弟该没有入手吧？

今后我一定要多学习，多请教呀，不能自己想当然。

兄弟该没有入手吧？

xhandy 发表于 2012-12-3 08:34
很常见的F.Audemars怀表，常有人拿来忽悠说事德国表，甚至说是朗格。这只算是比较高级的版本了，但已经不 ...

类似的例子还有Keystone表厂和Keystone Howard，对吧？

原来如此。多谢翁版解惑。

很常见的F.Audemars怀表，常有人拿来忽悠说事德国表，甚至说是朗格。这只算是比较高级的版本了，但已经不及同时期的高级品牌，也可以看得出Louis Audemars的后人捞得不怎么样了。
现代AP的创始人Jules-Louis Audemars跟Louis Audemars没有亲属关系，至少未见过文献记录，只不过大家都是同一个姓氏罢了，就跟香港李嘉诚和李家诚的关系差不多。

我在网上找到一些关于该公司历史的资料（见下面）。看来F. AUDEMARS（Francois Audemars Fils）是老LOUIS AUDEMARS分家后的后续三个公司中混的不怎么好的一个，而且产量也很少呀。

In 1885, Hector (born 28th1864), the son of Charles-Henri and his brother Charles-Henri (born 18th November 1887), founded “Audemars Frères”. The oldest son, François (born 20th September 1853), founded “F. Audemars Fils”. In the same year Louis Audemars-Valette (born 19th April 1850), the son of Eugène Audemars (7th son of L.B. Audemars) founded “Louis Audemars” (“official” successor of Louis Audemars).

When the “Ancienne Maison Louis Audemars” was liquidated, the completed watches, the blanks, the tools, materials and machines were divided among the three new companies. The new Louis Audemars company received most of the blanks and completed watches together with many resourced blanks made by well-known manufacturers.

François Audemars Fils, founded by the oldest son François (born in 1853), produced very few movements and finished watches. Most were very high quality watches, some with extremely demanding complications. Their blanks were bought by well-known watch companies. François Audemars Fils in Le Brassus was liquidated in 1898, because of financial difficulties. Thereafter François Audemars went to Geneva and worked as a watchmaker. A few years later he founded another company in Geneva-Eaux-Vives under the name “F. Audemars fils, fabrication”, producing watches and watch components. This new company was officially registered on 31st October 1911. This company was of no significance and was liquidated in 1925 or 1926. No watches by this company in Geneva are known.

The brothers of François Audemars, Hector (born in 1864) and Charles-Henri (born in 1867) were only 21 and 18 years old when they founded Audemars Frères in the empty workshops of the Ancienne Mason with their father’s help.

The third successor company, Louis Audemars, was founded by Louis-Benjamin Audemars-Valette, son of Eugène-François Audemars (7th son of Louis-Benjamin Audemars). They set it up in the old 1805 workshop in the Crêt-Meylan.

In the following years the newly established companies Audemars Frères and Louis Audemars mainly sold finished watches taken over from the old Audemars company (cf Figs. 87, 113, 114, 115, 116). They finished the blank movements they had inherited and sold them to other companies or finished them completely and then sold them under their own names. Watches with blanks finished before 1885 are of higher quality. To some extent the two companies also made highly complicated watches built on the old blanks. This is why both companies had very good reputations right up to the 20th century. They took advantage of the fame of the Ancienne Maison Louis Audemars which is why they always signed their watches “Louis Audemars” on the bezel and frequently referred to the foundation of the company in 1811, as well as to the numerous medals and distinctions.