| 双防水圈不错。 |
peterzhu 发表于 2012-10-16 09:26 不对，这个明显是东亚版ETA2824. |
kuzhuzhu 发表于 2012-11-12 22:09 看起来像Google翻译，很多东西不通，发出来应该检查一下嘛！ |
YYYY111121 发表于 2012-11-10 05:18 你发的英文版的 我帮你翻译过来 有误差 请回复更正 小悦 哈哈的…我们都会犯错有时。 我读了几本职位的互联网连接。非常有意思。海尔森鲨鱼潜水员的铜牌，在我看来，一个很普通的手表。它可能有一个eta-2824-2，但许多捐助者的建议可能是翻新或副本或复制。我会说，最有可能在我看来，作为一个杭州6300（我认为这是正确的号码），但一份不管。加上在usd1299是非常昂贵的。 这种情况并不特殊，青铜是一种昂贵的金属。它看起来像黄金和黄金。2个垫片或O型环不特别。动静环很粗。该案件是非常普通的，将在中国。我很惊讶缺乏质量。海尔森先生没有得到这个在一个很好的工厂。我的情况下，更好的质量。 所以我们说在海尔森笑的方式向所有银行。如果我是一个铜牌的情况我可能会收取相同的不锈钢。 正如你所提到的中国人喜欢外国产品。我们在这里做的，而且质量非常低，澳大利亚制造。中国可以产生最佳和最差的。因此它是混乱的，你会买例如，普拉达或修身，工厂在中国。所以你是买你的本地品牌，与意大利的标签。如果该项目是在意大利制造的，是完全不同的。 这是一个机会，被夺去了我的许多中国人。购买欧洲品牌。eterna-matic英纳格属于中国，属于中国。我怀疑这些手表的情况下在中国。但他们仍被视为欧洲。 如果质量是好的，它不应该的问题来自哪个国家。但人们很奇怪。瑞士和德国是好的，日本也不好。但日本很好的东西例如本田（虽然有些是由中国）和大精工是一样好的瑞士手表。 一些中国人是很聪明的，大多数中国人很聪明。但在钟表业，而使大量的利润从愚蠢的白人球员，为什么不与他们合作，建立一个欧洲品牌。或只是让欧洲担任主唱和中国可以举办演出，你赚很多钱。 我一直很声乐中国手表运动。海鸥和杭州是优秀。即使总干事和南宁在低端市场的好产品。我说几乎天天上论坛，使海鸥一样好埃塔和会比预计在几年。 我认为纽约是由一位中国人。121-time拥有一个中国妻子和丈夫和妻子是流利的英语，汉语，法语和德语。所以他们很聪明。 但下一个新兴市场，印度。他们可以很好的产品。但我的父亲说，你永远不能相信印度–他住在印度的年龄从6到17年。 很快谈话 关于 丹 |
还好没团到，嘿嘿，机芯坑爹啊 |
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我们一起开会的时候，我们单位的本部长（韩国人），他特别喜欢表每天都是不一样的表，各种风格，他一把把我的手抓过来，哇 这个表不错，我就喜欢这样的！！！牌子看起来好像哈密尔顿，很好的表！ 不知道铜得怎么样，我这个钢鲨是已经是非常好了，厚重大气，夜光好而且比较精准！ |
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我倒是觉得HELSON 买得不是机芯.........是一种风格一种时尚........... 机芯我是不太懂了.......稳定+精准就好了！别人看到你的表也就是外形...... |
| ETA最低端吧 |
OHSEAL 发表于 2012-10-16 08:21 好久木來烏 |
tony2011 发表于 2012-10-16 09:00 再評論似乎已過時,俺的判斷可暫且擺一旁,其实也相距不遠. 以下是上月20几号俺澳洲的一位朋友給俺的email全文,他是完全的同行,和helson干着相同的事,信中做了若干點評,俺認為是一盆不慍不火的清水,供参考~~~~~~ *********** Hi Yuet Ha-ha…. We all get things wrong sometimes. I read a few of the posts on the internet link. Very interested. The Helson Shark Diver Bronze, in my opinion a very average watch. It may have an ETA-2824-2, but as many of the contributors to the post suggested it may be refurbished or replica or copy. I would say most probably it looks to me as a Hangzhou 6300 (I think this is the correct number), but a copy regardless. Plus at USD1,299 it is very expensive. The case is not special, bronze is not an expensive metal. It looks like gold and Chinese like gold. The 2 gaskets or O-rings are not special. The movement ring is very crude. The case is very ordinary and will be made in China. I am surprised at the lack of quality. Mr Helson has not got this made in a good factory. My cases are far better quality. So as we say in Mr Helson is laughing all the way to the bank. If I was making a Bronze case I would probably charge the same as the stainless steel. As you mentioned the Chinese like foreign products. We do here, but Australian manufacturing quality is very low. China can produce the best and the worst. So it is confusing that you will buy for example, Prada or Trussardi that have factories in China. So you are buying your local brand, with an Italian label. If the item were manufactured in Italy that will be totally different. Here is an opportunity, that is being taken my many Chinese. Buy a European brand. Eterna-Matic is owned by the Chinese, Enicar is owned by the Chinese. I suspect these watches have their cases made in China. But they are still seen as European. If the quality is good it should not matter from which country. But people are strange. Swiss and German is good, Japanese is not as good. But Japanese make very good things for example Honda (although some are made in China) and Grand Seiko is as good as any Swiss watch. Some Chinese are very clever, well most Chinese are very clever. But in the watch industry, instead of making lots of profit from the stupid white guys, why not partner with them and establish a Sino-European brand. Or just allow the European to act as the front man and the Chinese can organise the productions and you both make a lot of money. I have been very vocal about Chinese watch movements. Sea-Gull and Hangzhou are excellent. Even DG and Nanning at the lower end of the market are good products. I say almost every day on the Forums, that the Sea-Gull is as good as ETA and will be better than ETA in a few years. I think Steinhardt is owned by a Chinese guy. 121-Time is owned by a Chinese husband and wife and the wife is fluent in English, Chinese, French and German. So they are very clever. But the next emerging market is India. They can make very good products. But as my father says, you can never trust an Indian – he lived in India from age of 6 to 17 years. Talk soon Regards Dan |
tammylele 发表于 2012-10-19 18:38 八面玲珑  |
stereo 发表于 2012-10-16 13:48 确实是新的，但是是最低级别的eta2828.避震是三花的 |
| 这机芯级别不高啊，有点可惜了。 |
MAXANGEL 发表于 2012-10-19 16:50 我想说整个过程看出了论坛的力量与文化 以stereo为代表的出色的行动力和奉献精神 以avkkkk为代表的勇于探索 以石版为代表的客观公正 以围观同志们为代表的高素养 充分表现出论坛的团结透明**自由 这才是最大的收获 |
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本帖最后由 绝对粗糙 于 2012-10-19 17:15 编辑 再来一句 需要精细打磨的 请联系我 我负责打磨 不收取任何费用 砂纸 锉刀准备着 哈哈！！再次感谢立体声！ |
| 刚刚才看到 怎么了 大家都？没团到的请走第二轮 ！！！ |
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讨论表嘛，牵到其他腹黑的就没有意思了，… stereo这次团购很热心，前后安排联系，团购才如此神速… |
| 几位朋友都没恶意,希望冷静交流,咱们不赞成针对性的PK,也望大家克制. |
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看看， 套用一位兄台的ID“自己买花自己戴”  各花入各眼，冷暖自知而已，哈哈 当然欢迎大家科普机芯知识，我觉得学到很多。 这真是好贴！ 各位不用生气争论，百花齐放才是春，这也许就是咱们名表通的特色之所在。 |
stereo 发表于 2012-10-19 12:04 我觉得既然组织团购 组织者应该对团购的商品了解 介绍的详细点提个这建议 有何不妥吗？至于省钱 挣钱 那也与我不相干 省钱那是福利大众 挣钱也是理所当然 我并未否定你组织团购的付出的功劳和辛苦 我只是提个建议 你觉得是风凉话也罢 不接受也没事 |
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