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作者: xhandy 时间: 2013-3-20 18:27
标题: 翻译征稿
怀表是舶来品，绝大多数的资料都是外文，这增加了咱国内表友学习怀表知识的难度。现有热心表友挺身而出，主动免费为表友们翻译英文资料，如果大家有想学习而又看不明白的材料，可以发到这个帖子里面让这位热心表友帮忙翻译。不过这是义务劳动，大家在时限等方面就无需要求太苛了，这位表友会抓紧时间帮大家翻译的。

作者: lxhprc 时间: 2013-3-20 20:47

作者: DVC-PRO 时间: 2013-3-20 21:13
Howard 12S 17J adj谢谢

作者: nomorewatch 时间: 2013-3-23 07:01
翁哥，其实您可以把需要翻译的文件直接放到这里，PM固然可以，但是这么好的咨询贴就这样沉下去就有点可惜了。

作者: xhandy 时间: 2013-3-23 10:00

DVC-PRO 发表于 2013-3-20 21:13
Howard 12S 17J adj谢谢

霍华德、12 尺寸、17颗宝石、校正。

作者: xhandy 时间: 2013-3-23 10:00

nomorewatch 发表于 2013-3-23 07:01
翁哥，其实您可以把需要翻译的文件直接放到这里，PM固然可以，但是这么好的咨询贴就这样沉下去就有点可惜了 ...

热心人来了，各位可以发起了

作者: nomorewatch 时间: 2013-3-24 07:11

xhandy 发表于 2013-3-22 18:00
热心人来了，各位可以发起了

看来大家的积极性还是偏低哦。。。

作者: haru 时间: 2013-3-24 09:49
小闹终于来了，咱们版该热闹了呵呵

作者: nomorewatch 时间: 2013-3-24 14:16

haru 发表于 2013-3-23 17:49
小闹终于来了，咱们版该热闹了呵呵

谢谢大哥支持，请您把需要翻译的资料全放在回复里，免得帖子下沉，我下次再来的时候会尽量翻译

作者: nomorewatch 时间: 2013-3-25 11:07
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作者: nomorewatch 时间: 2013-3-25 11:07
The desire to eliminate lubrication stem from the serious problems of early lubricants and Descarte's theory of involute gears. He showed that with involute gear teeth the action of them was to roll and to keep the contact point on the line of centers. No sliding, no lubricant needed.

Thsi led ot some effort to try tp make escapement with no sliding such as the detent id the impulse jewels are shaped. There is still sliding on the pivots however. Early Harrison time keepers tried to get past that with friction rollers with counter poise but these are not suited for watches.

Daniels claimed his co-axial escapement did not need oil but as built it turned out to need it.

Modern lubricants can be placed very precisely and and have much better properties eliminating most of the reasons for trying to avoid them

Early electric watch used magnetic field to impulse watches so no escapement lubrication was needed bit other parts did need it.

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已抽取，翻译中

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作者: nomorewatch 时间: 2013-3-25 11:10
in fact some of these boat watches were also timing trial winners. The world's Navies realized by about 1900 that they needed rugged accurate watches for gun boats, as in gun boat diplomacy, and torpedo boats. They set up time trials for these and tested them in one posiiton and various temperatures in Geneva and especially Neuchatel. By about 1915 some of the these makers figured out the the English Teddington trial had no size limits so they started adjusting these in positions and took the top places at the English trials. The Neuchatel makers clobbered the fancy Geneva entries. Ditisheim Movado and Longines ambushed them. The ultra fine adjustment may be transitory but these are rugged relaible watches.

Also many of the finest English movement were cased in heavy silver water proof cases for explorers. These are lovely watches and they are intended to go in distant explorations with late 1800's technology. They are reliable and robust. These custoimers staked their lives on these and if they got lost, there was no GPS or radio and help was not on the way. They needed relaible longitude and these wawtches were what got them back.
Kew moved to Teddington so they are the same. Teddington was open to all so cometition was tougher so I'd prefer a winner from there. That is where the Geneva and Neuchael makers went after each other since most Geneva and Neuchatel competition were limited to locals.

All gave varous classes of certificates but the top levels foremed the competition. Thus a Kew A certicate mean that a watch met their performance standards. These systems all awarded popints for exceeding the minimum standards. Kew/Teddington published the names and data on the top 50 performaers but gave no **s. The Swiss awarded **s for individual watches groups of watches and best regulator. The Swiss certificates have a lot more informationthen Kew Teddington including who did the final adjustment. The rules and scoring were different but the top watch at Teddington had a decent claim as the best in the world.

Swiss **s were based "on a curve" If the top few watches got similar scores they all got first ** and so it went. This was probably reasonable since the differences were within the variation of the watches. If two watches were close another set ot tests might reverse the ranking.

There are enough things to like and dislike about all of them that I don't have a favorite. They did not use modern statstics so the values do not relate to modern theories of error. When they did these tests they had computers but they were humans with pen and paper and sometimes mechanical adding machines.

My favorite test is the the Allan variance which you can learn about at this link. The old Hewlett Packard (they made atomic clocks) application note is there and it's a great read.

作者: nomorewatch 时间: 2013-3-25 11:12
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作者: nomorewatch 时间: 2013-3-25 11:12
It depends on what you have and how much you are prepared to maintain a watch. Since i collect fo enjoyment I do not intentionally buy watches I can't wear. Sometimes after I get the watch I find that it is too risky to wear. An example is fine English free spring keyless fusee. I broke in balance staff in a horrible example of mishandling and my repair guy said that staff was just too difficult to cut. It helical balance spring was made the staff so long the balance was too delicate and its regulating screws are worn so they are not stable so its too delicate to wear. The repair also took three years.

I heard of guy who had a very fine skeleton Audemars Piguet pocket watch. These things look like gold spider web. It was in his pocket when he leaned against a railing. He bent it and in the1980's it cost him $10,000 to fix.

I knew a fellow grad student who came from money and his very fine wrist watch was constantly breaking. The jeweler finally explained to him that the watch was made for a man who does not open his own car door.

What you wear depends on how you wear it , how you can store it when not in wear and your tolerance for loss. Railroad watches are made to be worn in hard use but even those do not belong in your pocket when you decide to compete in a chain saw sculpture contest. I wear dress watches when I am sure I am not going to engage in a football match or at least have a place to keep it when I do.

When I travel I bring along a fairly rugged fairly replaceable pocket watch and a water proof wrist watch that I never take off during the trip. I'll wear something better to a fancy occasion when I am sure I can keep it in safe place when I am not wearing it.

If you are a celebrity rep of a watch company you can and should wear a very expensive watch because the sponsor wants it shown and they will cover the repair if needed,

Different watches for different carry situations and spares for when you find you can't carry one. Why else would you need a collection?

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作者: DVC-PRO 时间: 2013-3-25 11:47
thin-model yellow gold filled (YGF) fully engine turned hunting case (HC) with blank monogram button and French bow has small depression on one cover but otherwise mint. An attractive Howard watch in excellent condition!

谢谢

作者: nomorewatch 时间: 2013-3-25 12:05

DVC-PRO 发表于 2013-3-24 19:47
thin-model yellow gold filled (YGF) fully engine turned hunting case (HC) with blank monogram butto ...

能否把图片也发过来？谢谢

作者: nomorewatch 时间: 2013-3-25 12:15

DVC-PRO 发表于 2013-3-24 19:47
thin-model yellow gold filled (YGF) fully engine turned hunting case (HC) with blank monogram butto ...

薄装表款，重型包黄金表壳带有玫瑰车花及开盖用按钮，法式表环带有压印痕迹（近新），一块品相非常好的侯活（Howard）！

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作者: nomorewatch 时间: 2013-3-30 09:30
http://people.timezone.com/mdisher/decorte/vcmr/vcmrpage.htm

作者: xhandy 时间: 2013-3-30 10:29
看到有问表原理的文章了

作者: nomorewatch 时间: 2013-3-30 23:52

xhandy 发表于 2013-3-29 18:29
看到有问表原理的文章了

有什么资料要我帮忙就第一时间把资料往这里放就没错了

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高露云历史散记：
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f11 ... lidated-521187.html
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f11 ... r-start-767838.html
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f11/gruens-after-assmann-457566.html
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f11 ... -resale-697850.html
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f11 ... -ausman-748957.html
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f11 ... n-gruen-565246.html
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f11 ... sources-592656.html

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作者: nomorewatch 时间: 2013-6-14 12:42
http://mb.nawcc.org/showwiki.php?title=Railroad_Time_Service

作者: nomorewatch 时间: 2013-6-14 14:13
In later years, improvements in manufacturing and machine accuracy made it possible to, in effect, design and manufacture the components with such precision that they required very little final adjusting and "tweaking". The Hamilton 992B and the rest of the "B" family of watches are a good example. They could experiment with a few prototype watches to see what gave the best accuracy and reliability. Then the new precision machinery and manufacturing processes being introduced in the late 1930s allowed them to accurately reproduce the features from the prototypes into the mass-produced watches. That, along with such developments as the vastly improved Elinvar Extra hairsprings used with monometallic balances reduced or eliminated much of the need for hand work in finishing and adjusting new watches, and kept the costs down.

Over the production life of the new models it was possible to eliminate many features that were for appearance only, such as rounded spokes and gold finish on train wheels and polishing the edges of plates, thus further reducing costs without having any detrimental effect on the accuracy of the watch. Hamilton even eliminated the damaskeening that produced the parallel line finish that was pretty standard on many of their watches by means of a new process called "milliskeening" that was able to produce the same effect using milling equipment, but likely at a lower cost. That change took place in 1952, so if your Hamilton watch was made after that (no, I don't have an exact date) don't say it is damaskeened; say instead that it is milliskeened, and you'll have people wondering what you are talking about or asking "who's Millie?" <];>)

The "bottom line" is that by the mid to late 1920s most movements were being cased and timed in their cases at the factory to that the makers didn't have to depend on the fancy damaskeening to attract customers. Simpler, plainer finishes had replaced the fancier, more intricate damaskeening patterns by then or a little later but the watches were no worse for it, and probably were better.

作者: nomorewatch 时间: 2013-6-14 14:15
Even back in the late 19th and early 20th Centuries, many of the very finest European and American watches did not have to rely on fancy damaskeening to demonstrate their fine craftsmanship. Of course many of those watches weren't full-plate watches, either, and full-plate watches are the subject of this thread.

I'll admit that it is harder to demonstrate craftsmanship on a full-plate watch, because as I mentioned in an earlier post, many of the "goodies" are hidden away under the full plates, which is undoubtedly why their manufacturers turned to damaskeening. Many of the finest watches were the"bridge-models", which don't lend themselves to damaskeening. Although I do have some full-plate watches in my collection (mainly Ball), that"s why I prefer the bridge models, with 3/4-plate watches somewhere in the middle!

One thing that sticks in my mind was the first time I took the dial off an Elgin 18-size, full-plate "B. W. Raymond" grade movement. That was probably 40 years ago and I don't remember the model, but I was really impressed by the beautiful finish hidden away under the dial where only a watchmaker (and later a collector) might ever be able to appreciate it. To me that demonstrated pride in craftsmanship more than the any amount of damaskeening.

Above all, I certainly don't expect (or even want) universal agreement on this subject....so why would you say that you really would like to agree with me, but.....? For better or for worse, many of my "tastes", horological and otherwise, are not always "mainstream" (if there is such a thing!).

To me, the dullest, most uninteresting threads and posts are the ones where everybody is in agreement and like the same things!

作者: nomorewatch 时间: 2013-6-14 14:23
http://horologist.yuku.com/topic ... age=-1#.UbqkB2_FUps

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SteveG：
http://ninanet.net/watches/others12/Mediums/mdecks.html
http://ninanet.net/watches/others16/Mediums/mdebord.html

作者: nomorewatch 时间: 2013-6-17 14:53
http://www.knirim.de/story.htm
http://www.knirim.de/bombere.htm
http://www.knirim.de/haruyama.htm
http://www.knirim.de/whitney.htm
http://www.knirim.de/histor2.htm
http://www.knirim.de/histor1.htm
http://www.knirim.de/revision.htm
http://www.knirim.de/iwcforum.htm

作者: nomorewatch 时间: 2013-6-27 14:19
http://www.google.com/patents/US2554523
http://www.google.com/patents/US2946183

作者: nomorewatch 时间: 2013-7-16 12:27
http://www.interstatetime.com/WatchOTM/WatchOTM-3-06.htm
http://www.interstatetime.com/WatchOTM/WatchOTM-Archive2001.htm
http://www.interstatetime.com/WatchOTM/WatchOTM-Archive2002.htm
http://www.interstatetime.com/WatchOTM/WatchOTM-2-06.htm
http://www.interstatetime.com/WatchOTM/WatchOTM-1-06.htm
http://www.interstatetime.com/CollectCorner.htm
http://www.interstatetime.com/PrivateLabels/PL_Main.htm
http://www.interstatetime.com/WeBuy.htm

作者: nomorewatch 时间: 2013-7-17 09:00
http://tempered-online.com/curtis/david/breguet/text.htm
http://tempered-online.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=2

作者: nomorewatch 时间: 2013-7-17 09:00
http://www.interstatetime.com/

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