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   发表于 2014-3-27 20:35:15 | 显示全部楼层 |只看大图 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 gfyk 于 2014-3-31 18:51 编辑

常客中,没看过steveg网页的应是少数。看到最后,多数人直接奔着船钟去了,对于steveg收的5枚甲板表好像少有人关注,尽管他们关系密切。
这里略说一下英国船钟Thomas Mercer据说全英国船钟的三分之一都由该作坊制作,一共生产了3万枚船钟。他开始给Thomas Russell当学徒,后来放弃去美国陶金的计划,独自在英国创业,1858年诞生,1984年破产,2012年复活,目前已经成为了配合豪华游艇的高级奢侈品。
该作坊破产前50年,在1930年左右就放弃了机械船钟的制作,但仍然做怀表。而且有趣的是,怀表的风格还有些类似甲板表。
这里贴一枚
1930年的中央秒针怀表,直径约50毫米,18毫米厚,表镜玻璃厚4毫米。使用lemania的机芯。标注为
thomas mercer
st albans
eng
swiss made。
dial up 天文台范围。真磁面,蓝钢针
有懂这个牌子和该款机芯的请讲一下。
随后贴一枚
steveg的类似机芯的法国甲板表。



以下是steveg的法国甲板表。同样适用lemania机芯。



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沙发
 楼主| 发表于 2014-3-27 21:21:47 | 显示全部楼层
请挪到怀表区。
板凳
 楼主| 发表于 2014-3-27 23:49:49 | 显示全部楼层
lxhprc 发表于 2014-3-27 22:21
漂亮。碉堡了。

哪个?好在哪里?
地板
 楼主| 发表于 2014-3-28 00:56:24 | 显示全部楼层

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 楼主| 发表于 2014-3-28 01:57:01 | 显示全部楼层
nomorewatch 发表于 2014-3-28 01:53
过轮夹板和轮系设计有精到之处

得到专家肯定。心中一暖。
(想来steveg能入眼的机芯也须有些长处。只是我作为初学者看不出。)
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-3-28 03:37:00 | 显示全部楼层
nomorewatch 发表于 2014-3-28 02:00
SteveG有几大主题(从观察他的网页就可得知):精工表,现代高档欧洲表,军表,潜水表,计时表和高档位天 ...

你怎么看他对TISSOT甲板表的看法?
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-3-28 06:09:52 | 显示全部楼层
nomorewatch 发表于 2014-3-28 05:35
没什么特别的感觉,不就说天梭甲板表不过不是么?

我怀疑这批天梭甲板表质量不是很好。列入使用的只有一小批。而且有部分留出的单件出了不少问题。特别是小钢轮断裂。
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-3-28 15:03:55 | 显示全部楼层
kashiyun 发表于 2014-3-28 12:59
请问楼主有什么设备拍摄的?

NOKIA N97手机
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-3-28 15:43:38 | 显示全部楼层
lxhprc 发表于 2014-3-28 09:55
就你帖子里这块。好的地方多了。第一品相,第二产量,第三机芯的结构布局,第四镏金机芯非常赞。

请问怎样看这款的产量。
多谢。
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-3-28 16:30:34 | 显示全部楼层
MAXANGEL 发表于 2014-3-28 16:18

异形版主什么看法
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-3-28 22:49:10 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 gfyk 于 2014-3-28 22:52 编辑

再贴两块甲板表。都不是我的。一块雅典的HS 2,一块真力时的HS 3。


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 楼主| 发表于 2014-3-29 04:25:43 | 显示全部楼层
nomorewatch 发表于 2014-3-29 02:17
HS2是非船钟类别的航海时计中最高级别的,也是最可靠的一类时计(仅仅针对机械怀表而言)。


对比一下上面真力时的机芯和今年真力时发表的大表机芯。
会得出有趣的结论。
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-3-29 16:03:36 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 gfyk 于 2014-3-29 16:07 编辑

对于热爱机械表的人们来说,船钟一直是一个很有意思的话题。第一次听说有人收集船钟是在一篇介绍丁之方丁之向兄弟的文章里,讲述丁之向如何从一位奥地利藏家手中拿下一个船钟的故事。当时觉得船钟和几十年前家里摆得座钟应该差不多,后来见了实物才知道,还是有些不一样的。尤其是筒形游丝和巨大的摆轮,让热爱机械的人们心生惊叹。曾经在视频中看到一位粗手粗脚的人拆一个汉密尔顿921船钟,发现战争年代的主打品修饰打磨依然华丽。而最近thomas mercer锁定豪华游艇生产商后回归市场的行为,更让船钟彻底进入奢侈品行列。今后的船钟与当年船钟的差别,恐怕会更像今天的114060和当年的5513之间的关系了。
进一步说,那些实用年代的甲板表也将引来越来越多人们的关注。最近上市的那些没有打标的天梭甲板表,看镀金状况还要好于steveg收藏的哪一款。可惜多数天梭甲板表类型的怀表都有皇冠轮生锈的缺陷,均需要修复,否则也是个选择。
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-3-29 21:37:13 | 显示全部楼层
lxhprc 发表于 2014-3-28 09:55
就你帖子里这块。好的地方多了。第一品相,第二产量,第三机芯的结构布局,第四镏金机芯非常赞。

谢谢。老兄拆装怀表的手艺值得佩服。
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-3-29 21:41:22 | 显示全部楼层
Thomas Mercer
1933. Dial Test Indicator.
1933.Master Clock and Automatic Control Panel.
1933. Cylinder Guage.
1950.
1951.
1956.
1962.
Mercer gauge.

Mercer gauges of Eywood Road, St. Albans, Hertfordshire.

Established 1854.

Thomas Mercer Ltd made chronometers, clocks, instruments and measuring equipment in London and St. Albans, from 1858 until 1984, when dial gauges were being replaced by electronic measuring devices and chronometers by GPS. For 126 years, Thomas Mercer and his successors had, between them, made over 30,000 chronometers of all types.

1822 Thomas Mercer, maker of marine chronometers, watches, and clocks, was born in November, at St. Helens, Lancashire, (now in the metropolitan borough of Merseyside), the second of three children of Richard Mercer (d. 1830), sail maker and barge builder, and his wife, Sarah.

1836 Sarah went on to marry Samuel Fletcher, manager of the Bridgewater Canal. He did not take to young Thomas, who was then apprenticed to his grandfather William Walker (1783–1860), a watch-movement maker and founded a dynasty of watchmakers at Duke Street, St. Helens, Merseyside. Thomas’s father, Richard Mercer, was a sailmaker, so Thomas had the horological and the nautical exposure in his career ancestry. [1] His duties included walking from St Helens to Liverpool occasionally, to deliver a basket of uncased watch movements to his uncle in Homer Street. His grandmother insisted that he should also attend the local school.

1843 He went to work for Thomas Russell in Slater Street, Liverpool, in order to learn from the top of the trade. In his free time he made watches, which he signed and sold under his own name.

1854 Having decided that the English watch and clock industry held no future for him, Mercer took a coach to London and bought a one-way ticket to America. But, while awaiting passage, he saw a marine chronometer in the shop window of John Fletcher, one of the most important chronometer makers of the day. He walked in and asked for work, and was accepted as a watch springer and finisher. During this period, the Greenwich premium trials were being held, to enable the Royal Navy to find makers capable of supplying and servicing chronometers that could be relied on to perform accurately and consistently under the extremes of temperature and motion encountered at sea. High prices were paid for chronometers that passed these trials.

1858 Mercer left Fletcher's service to set up on his own as a chronometer maker at New North Road, London.

1860 He moved to 45 Spencer Street, Clerkenwell, and later to other addresses in Clerkenwell. He had to face considerable competition in his chosen craft. Thomas Earnshaw and John Arnold, the two great modernizers of the marine chronometer, were long dead, but Dent, Frodsham, Blackie, the Poole Brothers, Reid, and the Scandinavians Kullberg and Johannsen were all established and active in this lucrative field.

Mercer became involved in the British Horological Institute, which had been established in 1858, and was reputed to be the oldest professional institute in the world for that discipline. He served as its honorary treasurer from 1875 to 1895, and lectured there on the need to modernize the industry and to train young people.

1874 He moved to St. Albans, setting up a factory behind his house at 14–15 Prospect Road. Each Friday he travelled the 20 miles to collect finished parts from his specialist outworkers in Clerkenwell and called into the Horological Institute.

1875 Mercer married Mary Thompson, daughter of a St. Albans newspaper reporter, on 15 May. The couple had seven children in six years: three boys and two sets of girl twins.

1890 Feeling the need to have a London address on his dials and letterheads, he took an office at 81 Westmoreland Place, City Road.

Success in the Greenwich trials was the key to Mercer's profitable business: he entered at least one chronometer each year and he was placed second in 1881, his son Frank being placed first in 1911.

1900 Thomas Mercer was appointed as judge for the horological class at the Universal Exhibition held in Paris. Unfortunately he caught a cold on the ferry crossing to France and died at the Hôtel Internationale, Paris, on 29 September. He was buried in St Stephen's Church, St. Albans.

At the time of his death he had been responsible for the manufacture of over 5,000 chronometers, sold to the Royal Navy and to the navies of the world.

Many other marine and survey chronometers, regulator clocks and precision timekeepers were produced, especially chronometer-controlled master clock systems for both cargo and ocean liners.

1929 Advert in British Industries Fair Catalogue as an Optical, Scientific and Photographic Exhibit. Manufacturer of "Octo" System of Electric Synchronised Clocks for all purposes, both Land and Marine. Special Chronographs for high-speed Race Timings. Standard Survey chronographs. Clocks for Industrial Purposes. (Scientific Section - Stand Nos. O.15 and J.32AA) [2]

1947 Listed Exhibitor - British Industries Fair. Manufacturers of Marine and Household chronometers, Lever Clocks for Ship and Domestic Purposes, Small Gears, Electric Clock Installations. Dial Gauges of all Types, Press Tools, Chronographs, Time Switches and any General Mechanism. (Olympia, Ground Floor, Stand No. A.1069) [3]

In 1960 Mercer Chronometer collaborated with LeRoy and ATO of Paris on their electrically maintained chronometer balance.

1984 The company closed
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-3-29 21:53:03 | 显示全部楼层
nomorewatch 发表于 2014-3-28 02:00
SteveG有几大主题(从观察他的网页就可得知):精工表,现代高档欧洲表,军表,潜水表,计时表和高档位天 ...


昨天接个电话就溜走了一个英式无卡度游丝钻石盖石的完整好品机芯。
120镑。

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 楼主| 发表于 2014-3-30 02:22:23 | 显示全部楼层
nomorewatch 发表于 2014-3-30 02:06
天涯何处无芳草?

只要兄弟赚钱得力,日后再好的东西都是你的;今天哪怕能够入手此款机心,如果用的是 ...

明白人
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-3-30 02:24:28 | 显示全部楼层

贴几张thomas mercer船钟的图片


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 楼主| 发表于 2014-3-30 02:52:56 | 显示全部楼层
nomorewatch 发表于 2014-3-30 02:48
机械感极强,视觉冲击力更是没话说;很有放大版英式天文台级古怀表的味道,不过话说回来,其实天文台级的 ...

基本就是擒纵挪位后缩小变表。
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